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5/14/2008 2:16 am
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in the last corner intimate like the soul hidden but not hiding an animal desire more terrible than loss
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5526 posts 5/14/2008 3:06 am |
what a gem you are sparkling brightly nioce post
thanks for reading and as per Dave Allen "May your God go with you"
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2044 posts 5/14/2008 3:16 am |
Lost your Marmite jar again, mate?
MM actually mentioned you when we were in Singers and talking about the pros and cons of Marmite, Vegemite and Bovril.
In the immortal words from 6th Sense ... I see stupid people.
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6070 posts 5/14/2008 3:38 am |
I don't get the title.
But I really like the poem.
Peace .. elaine67
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9285 posts 5/14/2008 4:42 am |
Is this after losing at canasta, sonnyboy?
Edna Jones
(And yes, we did mention you in the same breath as Marmite, but we'd never accuse you of having Marmite breath)
I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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5/14/2008 4:55 am |

Never take life seriously. No one ever gets out alive anyway.
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3021 posts 5/14/2008 4:57 am |
I'm touched by this but with a sense of mystery as to what has moved me. Poetry, leaving you in most cases, to deduct through your own associations and not necessarily that of the writer.
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430 posts 5/14/2008 5:48 am |
Humm, very deep. Are you hiding your intimate soul?
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8509 posts 5/14/2008 7:33 am |
Quoting Spitfire71: what a gem you are sparkling brightly nioce post
Oh, you tease.
I remember why it's so nice to have you around again now.
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8509 posts 5/14/2008 7:37 am |
Quoting Whatsherface: Lost your Marmite jar again, mate?
MM actually mentioned you when we were in Singers and talking about the pros and cons of Marmite, Vegemite and Bovril.
Well, obviously, yer Bovril, being of the meat-based variety, simply cannot be compared against the vegetative qualities of them others. Now, Vegemite, while bewilderingly popular amongst yer Antipodeans, is usually judged too smooth and bland for the discerning palate.
Marmite is king.
(I hope the conversation picked up again quickly)
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8509 posts 5/14/2008 7:40 am |
Quoting elaine67: I don't get the title.
But I really like the poem.
Spoor - the trail left by an animal.
From the Afrikaans, dontchaknow.
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8509 posts 5/14/2008 7:43 am |
Quoting MunchkinMatron2: Is this after losing at canasta, sonnyboy?
Edna Jones
(And yes, we did mention you in the same breath as Marmite, but we'd never accuse you of having Marmite breath)
Not that there's anything wrong with Marmite breath, of course.
Have you read "When I'm An Old Woman, I Shall Wear Purple" by Jenny Joseph?
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8509 posts 5/14/2008 7:51 am |
Quoting flamekeeper: I'm touched by this but with a sense of mystery as to what has moved me. Poetry, leaving you in most cases, to deduct through your own associations and not necessarily that of the writer.
Don't worry, the writer is pretty much in the dark on this one too.
It came out of reading some poems by Miguel Hernandez. He was a poet born not too far from here, in Orihuela. He wrote about the land and blood and passion, often in the local dialect. He was a Republican and disappeared in 1942, probably shot and buried in a shallow grave by some of Franco's boys.
Reading poetry in another language is difficult, but sometimes that further remove leaves you open to even stronger impressions than usual (if that makes any sense).
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8509 posts 5/14/2008 7:51 am |
Quoting fastcatkin: Humm, very deep. Are you hiding your intimate soul?
Aren't we all?
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9285 posts 5/14/2008 8:29 am |
Quoting gowerboy: Not that there's anything wrong with Marmite breath, of course.
Have you read "When I'm An Old Woman, I Shall Wear Purple" by Jenny Joseph?
I have, indeed. WHF, though, admitted to wearing purple during her younger Goth days.
I already gobble up samples in shops--last time it happened was at the Maxim's counter at Matsusakaya while we were in Tokyo a few years back. They were giving out free chocolates, so of course I had to grab as many as I could. Here's hoping they've forgotten what I look like by now. 
I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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430 posts 5/14/2008 9:44 am |
Of course we are...at least until the right person comes along to share it with.... have you found yours yet?
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8509 posts 5/14/2008 11:28 am |
Quoting MunchkinMatron2: I have, indeed. WHF, though, admitted to wearing purple during her younger Goth days.
I already gobble up samples in shops--last time it happened was at the Maxim's counter at Matsusakaya while we were in Tokyo a few years back. They were giving out free chocolates, so of course I had to grab as many as I could. Here's hoping they've forgotten what I look like by now. 
I think I saw your photo on the wall the last (and only) time I was there.
Underneath it read: Do Not Feed.
(WTF was a Goth? Oh, that's priceless...stop me laughing, she has swords...)
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8509 posts 5/14/2008 11:34 am |
Quoting fastcatkin: Of course we are...at least until the right person comes along to share it with.... have you found yours yet?
No matter how close you are to someone, I think there's always a part of you that remains separate, in the corner.
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7809 posts 5/14/2008 12:04 pm |
what can be more terrible than loss jealousy?
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5526 posts 5/14/2008 12:30 pm |
Quoting gowerboy: Oh, you tease.
I remember why it's so nice to have you around again now.
why thanks 
thanks for reading and as per Dave Allen "May your God go with you"
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2044 posts 5/14/2008 12:58 pm |
Thwaps Gower with Hakim.
Oy, I still wear purple. It is my second fave colour ... on some days my fave even. And Last I checked am still younger than you two. 
And re Goth, hey, I was an art student. It is mandatory to do the Goth thing at least once. I was once also a biker chick. The only one on the team who was. Double  
Stop laffin', Gower!
In the immortal words from 6th Sense ... I see stupid people.
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9285 posts 5/14/2008 6:16 pm |
Quoting Whatsherface: Thwaps Gower with Hakim.
Oy, I still wear purple. It is my second fave colour ... on some days my fave even. And Last I checked am still younger than you two. 
And re Goth, hey, I was an art student. It is mandatory to do the Goth thing at least once. I was once also a biker chick. The only one on the team who was. Double  
Stop laffin', Gower!
Biker chick?

THAT woke me up big time ROFLMAO! I got visuals of you with tattoos wearing leather now LOL!
I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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2044 posts 5/14/2008 10:11 pm |
No tats but definitely lots of leather and denim. Was the only stewardess who got off the plane, changed into my gear and hopped on my best friend's bike off into the sunset. I was actually told not to "associate with such riff raff" as it would ruin the airline's image. I shall not mention which one.
Best time I had. Made some good mates. Unfortunately quite a few of them are dead now.
In the immortal words from 6th Sense ... I see stupid people.
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673 posts 5/15/2008 12:08 am |
Are you trying to confuse me on purpose?
LOL...
thanks for the welcome back
Sensy
between the stars, beyond the planet mars, there Sens will be
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1210 posts 5/15/2008 3:25 am |
And of course 'spoor' is Dutch, if you translate it, it just means track or trail. It can also mean a track, rail, spur. End of my Dutch lesson. Great poem again!!
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4303 posts 5/15/2008 6:23 am |
Hidden but not hiding. Is the animal hunter or prey?
Enjoy the ride. All you take with you when you leave is the experience.
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 8:02 am |
Quoting beta34: what can be more terrible than loss jealousy?
That's one possibility.
What I had in mind was a feeling so overwhelming that it was even more powerful than the sense of loss you feel when you lose something or someone so close to you it feels like an amputation.
More or less.
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 8:02 am |
You're very welcome 
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 8:04 am |
Quoting Whatsherface: Thwaps Gower with Hakim.
Oy, I still wear purple. It is my second fave colour ... on some days my fave even. And Last I checked am still younger than you two. 
And re Goth, hey, I was an art student. It is mandatory to do the Goth thing at least once. I was once also a biker chick. The only one on the team who was. Double  
Stop laffin', Gower!
I hope that thwap was with the flat of the blade.
Art student, goth, biker chick...what team was this?
*bites knuckles as tears course freely down face*
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 8:06 am |
Quoting MunchkinMatron2: Biker chick?

THAT woke me up big time ROFLMAO! I got visuals of you with tattoos wearing leather now LOL!
I had the same visuals.
But perhaps for different reasons.
perhaps
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 8:07 am |
Quoting Whatsherface: No tats but definitely lots of leather and denim. Was the only stewardess who got off the plane, changed into my gear and hopped on my best friend's bike off into the sunset. I was actually told not to "associate with such riff raff" as it would ruin the airline's image. I shall not mention which one.
Best time I had. Made some good mates. Unfortunately quite a few of them are dead now.
I didn't know stewardesses led such short lives.
Must be all the altitude.
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 8:07 am |
Quoting sens_4_always: Are you trying to confuse me on purpose?
LOL...
thanks for the welcome back
Sensy
As always!
How are ya, sensy?
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 8:11 am |
Quoting flatlander2007: And of course 'spoor' is Dutch, if you translate it, it just means track or trail. It can also mean a track, rail, spur. End of my Dutch lesson. Great poem again!!
My etymological dictionary (try saying that when you're drunk) says that the word comes from the Afrikaans. But that's probably because we don't want to admit to having borrowed anything directly from the Dutch.
Stop me if I'm Boering you.
(I kill me)
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 8:16 am |
Quoting Sir_T: Hidden but not hiding. Is the animal hunter or prey?
It's more of an animal desire. One that is buried in your subconscious (hidden), rather than one you are trying to suppress (hiding).
In that sense we are all prey to subconscious desires.
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7809 posts 5/15/2008 8:24 am |
Quoting gowerboy: That's one possibility.
What I had in mind was a feeling so overwhelming that it was even more powerful than the sense of loss you feel when you lose something or someone so close to you it feels like an amputation.
More or less.
how good is your Spanish? Would it help you understanding Portuguese? There is a song of Chico Buarque (Pedaco de Mim = Piece of Myself (?)), with a great lyric talking about the pain of separation. It describes this pain in so vivid ways, it hurts. In a certain moment it says that the feeling of longing is like feeling pain at an amputated member. Your answer made me remember that. You find the song in youtube and the lyrics in Internet ... I don't know a good translation for that and my English sucks 
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2044 posts 5/15/2008 8:25 am |
Oy, you two! Keep that up and I will be thwapping you not with the flat of Hakim's blade.
Team Up-Themselves Stewardesses. Brand products togging, insipid conversation spouting, superficial values lowering bunch I had the misfortune of being teamed with. The fact that my best friend was a biker who used to come fetch me after my flights really rankled and they kept lecturing me about not fitting in with "The Team". *Roll eyes*
Tears will not save you, Gower.
In the immortal words from 6th Sense ... I see stupid people.
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11919 posts 5/15/2008 9:03 am |
I'm going on strike for your stolen ball to be re-attached. I may be absent for a while.
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 9:27 am |
Quoting beta34: how good is your Spanish? Would it help you understanding Portuguese? There is a song of Chico Buarque (Pedaco de Mim = Piece of Myself (?)), with a great lyric talking about the pain of separation. It describes this pain in so vivid ways, it hurts. In a certain moment it says that the feeling of longing is like feeling pain at an amputated member. Your answer made me remember that. You find the song in youtube and the lyrics in Internet ... I don't know a good translation for that and my English sucks 
Your English most certainly does not suck.
The lyrics are a little tricky in places, but I get the gist. Exile is like losing a piece of yourself. Seems the man had to leave Brazil for a while because of problems with the regime at the time.
And then I found a translation at gatochy blogspot 
Oh, piece of me Oh, half torn away from me Take your gaze with you For missing you is the worst torment It's worse than oblivion It's worse than becoming crippled
Oh, piece of me Oh, half exiled from me Take your signs with you For missing you hurts like a boat That slowly completes an arc And avoids coming ashore
Oh, piece of me Oh, half torn away from me Take your shadow with you For missing you is the reverse of giving birth Missing you is tidying up the bedroom Of the son who has died
Oh, piece of me Oh, half amputed from me Take what there is left of you For missing you is a throbbing pain It's like being stung In the part that I have lost
Oh, piece of me Oh, adored half of me Take my eyes away For missing you is the worst of punishments And I don't want to carry with me The shroud of love Goodbye
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 9:30 am |
Quoting Whatsherface: Oy, you two! Keep that up and I will be thwapping you not with the flat of Hakim's blade.
Team Up-Themselves Stewardesses. Brand products togging, insipid conversation spouting, superficial values lowering bunch I had the misfortune of being teamed with. The fact that my best friend was a biker who used to come fetch me after my flights really rankled and they kept lecturing me about not fitting in with "The Team". *Roll eyes*
Tears will not save you, Gower.
I get the feeling nothing will ever save me from:
SuperBikerGothStewardessGirl!
Where's the cape? I want to go whoosh!
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 9:32 am |
Quoting debutanteBaltimr: I'm going on strike for your stolen ball to be re-attached. I may be absent for a while.
Don't do disappearing on us dB, or I'll personally send fancy with her balls to come and find you. And you don't want that, believe me.
(or maybe you do)
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2044 posts 5/15/2008 9:38 am |
Bwahahahaha ... there is no escaping the evil *cack* ... where's the mint?
How many time have I told you not to use the cape as your diaper?
In the immortal words from 6th Sense ... I see stupid people.
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7809 posts 5/15/2008 9:44 am |
Quoting gowerboy: Your English most certainly does not suck.
The lyrics are a little tricky in places, but I get the gist. Exile is like losing a piece of yourself. Seems the man had to leave Brazil for a while because of problems with the regime at the time.
And then I found a translation at gatochy blogspot 
Oh, piece of me Oh, half torn away from me Take your gaze with you For missing you is the worst torment It's worse than oblivion It's worse than becoming crippled
Oh, piece of me Oh, half exiled from me Take your signs with you For missing you hurts like a boat That slowly completes an arc And avoids coming ashore
Oh, piece of me Oh, half torn away from me Take your shadow with you For missing you is the reverse of giving birth Missing you is tidying up the bedroom Of the son who has died
Oh, piece of me Oh, half amputed from me Take what there is left of you For missing you is a throbbing pain It's like being stung In the part that I have lost
Oh, piece of me Oh, adored half of me Take my eyes away For missing you is the worst of punishments And I don't want to carry with me The shroud of love Goodbye
you are amazing fast with those things the song is part of a play he made for the theater, named Opera do Malandro. It includes some other good pieces.
In this one the thing about tidying up the bedroom of a son who is already dead touches me deeply. Perhaps because I've seen how that hurts my mom ... then the boat avoiding come ashore ... sigh
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 9:56 am |
Quoting Whatsherface: Bwahahahaha ... there is no escaping the evil *cack* ... where's the mint?
How many time have I told you not to use the cape as your diaper?
Sorry about that, but I recently confronted MakesYouCackYourPantsMan and well...the inevitable happened.
This superheroing business isn't all it's cacked...I mean, cracked up to be.
*sigh*
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8509 posts 5/15/2008 10:03 am |
Quoting beta34: you are amazing fast with those things the song is part of a play he made for the theater, named Opera do Malandro. It includes some other good pieces.
In this one the thing about tidying up the bedroom of a son who is already dead touches me deeply. Perhaps because I've seen how that hurts my mom ... then the boat avoiding come ashore ... sigh
You just gotta know how to google right, baby.
That line got to me too. It sideswipes you. The first part about tidying a bedroom seems a little ridiculous and then comes the hammer blow.
Sorry to hear that your mother has had to experience something like this, and, of course, you.
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1210 posts 5/15/2008 11:32 pm |
Quoting gowerboy: My etymological dictionary (try saying that when you're drunk) says that the word comes from the Afrikaans. But that's probably because we don't want to admit to having borrowed anything directly from the Dutch.
Stop me if I'm Boering you.
(I kill me)
The Afrikaner were Dutch. They settled there during the period the Dutch East India Company sailed the oceans. Words like 'wildebeest', 'apartheid' are originally Dutch -- I'm not sure if that's something to be proud of. A 'boer', btw, is the Dutch word for farmer. The supporters of the soccer team here in Eindhoven (PSV) are proud of their provincial character....so they sing a song: 'boeren, boeren, boeren.' The second, third and etc verses are the same.....so is the chorus....and the bridge........yes we've got a way with words!!!
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8509 posts 5/16/2008 5:17 am |
Quoting flatlander2007: The Afrikaner were Dutch. They settled there during the period the Dutch East India Company sailed the oceans. Words like 'wildebeest', 'apartheid' are originally Dutch -- I'm not sure if that's something to be proud of. A 'boer', btw, is the Dutch word for farmer. The supporters of the soccer team here in Eindhoven (PSV) are proud of their provincial character....so they sing a song: 'boeren, boeren, boeren.' The second, third and etc verses are the same.....so is the chorus....and the bridge........yes we've got a way with words!!!
Yeah. It's interesting how the provenance of these words in English is always attributed to Afrikaans rather than Dutch. I think it's because we assimilated the words at around the time of the Boer War, beginning of the 20th century, directly from the Boers themselves.
Aardvark is a good word.
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