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gowerboy
4/23/2008 9:26 am |
We all know that pigeons spread disease. Doves however, have always seemed to escape the "rats with wings" label. Now, seeing as doves and pigeons are basically indistinguishable, and the two terms are often used interchangeably, the tendency to see the dove as a symbol of peace and the pigeon as a symbol of pestilence has always seemed unfair to me. I'll admit right off that I'm biased. As you may know, I have a fondness for crows. Intelligent, cunning and larcenous they represent all that is best in bird and man (excuse the use of the masculine collective noun, but I'm going into biblical mode). In that story about Noah and the Flood, Noah sends out two birds from the Ark to see how the land lies (or, more importantly, where the land lies). First he sends out a raven (king of the crows), but the raven just flies "to and fro". Then he sends out a dove, but the dove comes back empty-beaked. Then, now get this, he sends out the dove a second time. A second time? I didn't see the raven getting any second chances. Anyway, doves have certainly been getting far too easy a ride as far as I'm concerned. That Picasso dawdle of the dove with the leafy twig in its gob...pure PR. Releasing doves at the opening of the Olympic Games (I had to laugh when those stupid birds went up in flames at the 1988 Seoul Olympics, hadn't they paid any attention at the rehearsals?). Doves supposedly represent purity and symbolise peace, but how can they when they are basically pigeons and pigeons are scum? I'm just glad to see that the local authorities in Hiroshima, Japan are taking things more seriously. They recognise the dangers that doves pose to humanity. Ironically enough, this sign is found in the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park. The sign reads: CAUTION If you play with the doves, you may catch their diseases. If you touch them, please rinse your mouth and wash your hands to prevent disease. Please do not give food to the doves. The City of Hiroshima. |
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4/23/2008 10:20 am |
arrrrrrrrrrrrr man theres a bloke here whos got them paloma blancos, lets them out, and wow dont they look good. in the evening. then they come and crap in my pool. shoot them, i say and put them in a pie with marmite and bunnies whats it all about if you cant have a laugth and a shag every now and then
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4/23/2008 10:37 am |
None of them last too long here...they're a good source of protein. Apparantly.
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4/23/2008 10:38 am |
arrrrrrrrrrrrr man theres a bloke here whos got them paloma blancos, lets them out, and wow dont they look good. in the evening. then they come and crap in my pool. shoot them, i say and put them in a pie with marmite and bunnies  Locally an old lady got an ABSO (Antisocial behaviour order here for feeding the pidgeons  ) bet she wouldn't have if they were Doves You can't keep a good woman down
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4/23/2008 10:40 am |
Im a bird watcher,yes i admit it,middleage and twitching seem to go together,plus where i live is just so surrounded by birds,one cant help noticing and actually cant help becoming fond of them. I call the collared doves,the stupid doves,they fly into your windows for godsake now i adore the rooks,great big black scraggy big beaked evil looking things,but they are clever and cunning,if i put bread out,its gone in minutes if these birds spot it,they have a system,a couple stay in the trees,a couple land load up with bread then they fly back to the tree whilst the others come for the bread,a bit like a relay!!!Oh god i could go on and on here about bird behaviour,i feed the birds twice a day with mixed fruit and oats,im in my element watching them,we have wood pigeons as well,they are so big and they kind of look mean,i even recognise the different bird song now,and i carry binoculars in my car,just in case i spot something worth looking at,admittedly with the warmer weather approaching builders in shorts are usually appealing ,okay im going,im getting carried away with my enthuasium for the feathered species.come and roll in the mud i wanna get dirty.
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4/23/2008 11:35 am |
Worst part is there isn't enough meat on the (censored) things to even make a decent snack. It's a waste of good lead to even shoot them. Plus they can really damage a jet engine. Celebrate life!
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4/23/2008 1:11 pm |
It could be worse, though. They could have stingers. (I am almost ready to release my new strain of virus that will wipe out the world population of bees and wasps.) A Woman's from the BACK !
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4/23/2008 3:37 pm |
It could be worse, though. They could have stingers. (I am almost ready to release my new strain of virus that will wipe out the world population of bees and wasps.) go ahead bro straight from the heart 
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4/23/2008 3:38 pm |
seriously it could be worse and I am glad it ain't straight from the heart
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4/23/2008 4:10 pm |
What does the sign say? Peace .. elaine67
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4/23/2008 6:02 pm |
Thought I was the only one who couldn't read the sign either, a symptom of my impending forty-year-oldhood. I keep hearing Bert singing "Doing The Pigeon" in my head now, which, to anybody who has a lewd bent (which, um, I don't) can sound like a whole different thing entirely. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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 4/23/2008 8:41 pm |
I like elrics idea of a pie lol
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4/24/2008 6:53 am |
arrrrrrrrrrrrr man theres a bloke here whos got them paloma blancos, lets them out, and wow dont they look good. in the evening. then they come and crap in my pool. shoot them, i say and put them in a pie with marmite and bunnies Better get that posted on MM's recipe swap.
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4/24/2008 6:53 am |
None of them last too long here...they're a good source of protein. Apparantly.
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4/24/2008 6:54 am |
Not forgetting the merkins Locally an old lady got an ABSO (Antisocial behaviour order here for feeding the pidgeons ) bet she wouldn't have if they were Doves
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4/24/2008 6:57 am |
Im a bird watcher,yes i admit it,middleage and twitching seem to go together,plus where i live is just so surrounded by birds,one cant help noticing and actually cant help becoming fond of them. I call the collared doves,the stupid doves,they fly into your windows for godsake now i adore the rooks,great big black scraggy big beaked evil looking things,but they are clever and cunning,if i put bread out,its gone in minutes if these birds spot it,they have a system,a couple stay in the trees,a couple land load up with bread then they fly back to the tree whilst the others come for the bread,a bit like a relay!!!Oh god i could go on and on here about bird behaviour,i feed the birds twice a day with mixed fruit and oats,im in my element watching them,we have wood pigeons as well,they are so big and they kind of look mean,i even recognise the different bird song now,and i carry binoculars in my car,just in case i spot something worth looking at,admittedly with the warmer weather approaching builders in shorts are usually appealing ,okay im going,im getting carried away with my enthuasium for the feathered species.This is an ideal opportunity to talk about birds, tits and shags. But I think that's Ricardo's territory, so I'll leave it there.
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4/24/2008 6:58 am |
Worst part is there isn't enough meat on the (censored) things to even make a decent snack. It's a waste of good lead to even shoot them. Plus they can really damage a jet engine. (say it again) Thanks for visiting.
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4/24/2008 6:58 am |
It could be worse, though. They could have stingers. (I am almost ready to release my new strain of virus that will wipe out the world population of bees and wasps.)
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4/24/2008 6:58 am |
go ahead bro
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4/24/2008 6:59 am |
seriously it could be worse and I am glad it ain't
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4/24/2008 7:00 am |
What does the sign say? (For the second time, my previous edit disappeared).
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4/24/2008 7:01 am |
Thought I was the only one who couldn't read the sign either, a symptom of my impending forty-year-oldhood. I keep hearing Bert singing "Doing The Pigeon" in my head now, which, to anybody who has a lewd bent (which, um, I don't) can sound like a whole different thing entirely. I'd see a doctor.
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4/24/2008 7:02 am |
I like elrics idea of a pie lol
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4/24/2008 7:25 am |
That does read ironic. I once tasted "the symbol of peace", too rough, and never dare trying again. I can still see caged pigeons/doves on the market here, pity that they don't seem to have a more "prosperous" future than their Hiroshima fellows. Agnes
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4/24/2008 9:35 am |
You have a lewd bent? I'd see a doctor. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/24/2008 9:59 am |
That does read ironic. I once tasted "the symbol of peace", too rough, and never dare trying again. I can still see caged pigeons/doves on the market here, pity that they don't seem to have a more "prosperous" future than their Hiroshima fellows. I always wanted the pigeon to be caught........
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4/24/2008 10:02 am |
It's not that noticeable unless I stoop. having to stoop for anything...except to conquer, of course.
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4/25/2008 5:02 am |
Must be totally inconspicuous then, I can't imagine you ever having to stoop for anything...except to conquer, of course. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/25/2008 8:00 am |
Now that you mention it, I hardly stoop, even when my mind gets lowered to the gutter. It goes bellyflop all the way down.
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4/26/2008 12:55 am |
Did you ever see the cartoon "Catch The Pigeon"? I always wanted the pigeon to be caught........ Agnes
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4/26/2008 12:05 pm |
Quoth the Rain Crow Ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka- kow-kow-kowlp-kowlp-kowlp- kowlp... Anslatetra istha, Iendfra inderfa -- Elvish for Translate this, friend finder
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4/28/2008 6:46 am |
Love cartoons, but never seen that one. My favorite one is of the catch-the-mouse theme---Tom and Jerry. Never want that lovely mouse to be caught.
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4/28/2008 6:48 am |
Quoth the Rain Crow Ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka-ka- kow-kow-kowlp-kowlp-kowlp- kowlp...
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4/28/2008 9:56 am |
Are you referring to the Yellow-billed Cuckoo? I stand corrected, Corvus corax of the corvidae. Mr misinformation I am, depend on it. Anslatetra istha, Iendfra inderfa -- Elvish for Translate this, friend finder
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4/28/2008 1:32 pm |
Are you referring to the Yellow-billed Cuckoo? COCCYZUS AMERICANUS Anslatetra istha, Iendfra inderfa -- Elvish for Translate this, friend finder
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4/28/2008 5:47 pm |
Hmmm I'm confused. Pigeons aka "rodents with wings" is bad. Mice, rodents without wings is good. Ah Doves. Been enamored with their song since childhood. Also have a fondness for Ravens. Pigeons... not so much Enjoy the ride. All you take with you when you leave is the experience.
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4/29/2008 9:56 am |
Quite possibly. The birder page I went to mentioned the cucu further down in the text. But I did assume it was a crow type crow of the cuvidae. Cuvidae? I'll have to check that again. I stand corrected, Corvus corax of the corvidae. Mr misinformation I am, depend on it. It's a sickness. (at least, that's what my medical dictionary says)
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4/29/2008 9:59 am |
Hmmm I'm confused. Pigeons aka "rodents with wings" is bad. Mice, rodents without wings is good. Ah Doves. Been enamored with their song since childhood. Also have a fondness for Ravens. Pigeons... not so much that they can't crap on you from above (just in your cupboards). And doves and pigeons are the same...just that doves have better PR. Crows are the best.
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5/16/2008 10:15 am |
Well, I've gone right off Magpies. Recently saw one take a fat blackbird chick from it's mother. The mother had taken it to catch worms one morning but unfort the chick was not adept at flying and the Magpie harassed and killed it, then carried it off between it's legs to eat. The poor mother tried dive bombing near the scene but the Magpie wasn't put off at all. I know all birds have to eat, but this episode made me feel quite sick! Nature can be cruel. Now Rooks are characters. Really sociable birds, nesting colonially in trees together with different family members (I presume) on the same branch. Don't have time for Pigeons BUT I do like the sound that a wood pigeon makes.
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5/19/2008 8:11 am |
Crows are the best.
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7/27/2008 1:48 pm |
I'm definitely a raven, crow or -- even better magpies!!! magpies rule!!!!
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7/27/2008 11:42 pm |
Riny and I have been having a good giggle about pigeons/doves.... Doves are pigeons in their all white garb. When I lived in California, some people had doves and Chinese water beetles; others had pigeons and cockroaches. Somehow the idea of sending a pigeon out to find land just seems wrong....  Personally, I like jays--Stellar Jays, Blue Jays, Whiskey Jacks....magpies...I think I was a magpie in a previous life....oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shiny things!!! Wishing you happiness Misty
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7/28/2008 3:20 am |
Jays and magpies are both crows, just with fancy plumage. And a dove is still a pigeon with better PR.
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