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I'm very angry and surprise when the West press and the West people support the mob in LaSa. They killed about 24 Chinese civilian, burned out many buildings and hurt hundreds of civilian. I have a classmate in college who is working in LaSa now, and livs in the city for about 7 years. He told me that mob were crazy and dangerous. They not only attacked Hang civilian, but also killed some Zang people. For example, four young girls fleed in a small room. Mob fired the house, and four girls all burded to die. One of the four girl is Zang people. Mob even hurted a 4-month-ago baby. But West press said that it was peaceful pageant, and Chinese government crackdowned the peaceful pageant. If West people who knows Chinese and visits Chinese BBS, he will find that most of Chinese are complainning that the government are too weak, and not protected civilian well. Chinese people request government must punish these mob rigorously. So, the west press and the west people just support crazy mob who are hated by most Chinese. We are big nation, and 20% human beings living on the earth are Chinese people. The mob killed some of us, they should be punished, even they are protected by Frenchman, Englishman and American. Do not forget, we have fighted against almost all the West in Korea war. But before the war between East and West, I heartily want the West people know more about XiZang, know more about what mob have done in the 'peaceful pageant', and know more about China's history about XiZang. By the way, when those White said 'Free Tibet' and shaked a Tibet flag, do you know where the flag comes from? It's a oriflamme in the beginning, and Qing emperor gived a army that grouped by 3000 Zang people, to protect the Chinese South-West border, at end of 18 century. Six rays means six different nation people lived in XiZang, and lions in the center of flag means the imperial power from BeiJing.So the flag just means that XiZang is a part of China. Know more history, and do not be so foolish. |
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4/11/2008 8:05 am |
Hmmmmmm Have you considered the other side of the argument: the Chinese invaded Tibet in 1959--perhaps the Tibetans would like their country back? If the demonstrations were so violent, why won't the Chinese government permit western journalists in to see these demonstrations? Why the clamp down on journalists? Tourism? Pretty flimsy argument about a country's sovereignty based on a flag?? Why won't the Chinese govt meet with the Dalai Lama? Why do they try to discredit him? What proof, evidence do they have? Puzzled here in the west... Wishing you happiness Misty
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4/11/2008 9:08 am |
In every story, there are always three sides. The sides in opposition, and somewhere hidden in the middle, is the real truth of the matter. Sometimes, the answer is not found in narrow vision history. The whole picture has to be looked at. Mankind is constantly in evolution......sometimes the only way to achieve this is through revolution. Dialogue with the people involved is always preferable....
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4/11/2008 9:10 am |
If you want to stop people being killed, if you want everyone to understand both sides of the situation, if you want there to be a peaceful settlement, then let the people talk. The Chinese government refuses to talk or allow outside reporting. Welcome to the blogs, you can say what you like.
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4/12/2008 3:24 pm |
Like what I posted at toscanasunny's blog-- I was just in Guangzhou last month, and I was struck by the fact that every time news coverage about Tibet or Taiwan came on TV, it was immediately censored and the TV would go blank. So you have to ask yourself these questions: 1. Why would your government feel the need to resort to censorship if it has nothing to hide about the issues on Tibet and Taiwan? 2. Considering that your government only allows you to see selective bits and pieces of what is really happening in Tibet, how much do you really know? Last October, I was also in Beijing, with a tour group, and we went to visit Tiananmen Square. We wanted to unfurl a banner which stated that we were such and such a tour group from the Philippines. Policemen came over and stopped us from doing so. Again, a question--what rights do the ordinary Chinese people truly enjoy, and how much of your rights (the right to information and freedom of expression, especially) are being curtailed, if tourists like us can't even unfurl a simple, innocuous banner in a public place? I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/12/2008 8:54 pm |
To MunchkinMatron2: I got information about 3.14 from Chinese CCTV, from newspaper of English press and from my classmate living in LaSa. That's enough, and much more than the West, including you. Maybe you more believe in CNN, but realy the photoes published in CNN Web are modified. Why CNN dare not show the truth? And do you deny the mob killed one 8-month-ago baby? Almost all the resident of LaSa talk about the baby. All of resident are cheated and only the West far wary from there are known the truth? Why not say you are God? And the truth means what you believe or want to believe , but not what it realy happended around us. Chinese government is different from West government.But during the history in about 5000 years of China, our government never are similar s to West. And also we never force West to be similar with us. We are different. Maybe you think most Chinese people do not support Chinese government.You are wrong. All West are wrong and cheated by your press. Most about 14,000,000,000 Chinese people, including 56 nations people, support Chinese government to safeguard the integrity of whole China, including XiZang and Taiwan. If Chinese government decide to attack Taiwan, maybe you believe it just China invade Taiwan. But Chinese do not think so. We should union our country, and it's our duty. Ant it's my responsibility for myself. I do not want the war happened when my daughter have grown up. Well, it's are duty for every Chinese people, not only for Chinese government and Chinese Army. Why? we are son of the big country for 5000 years history. Our ancestor give our land, and if we lose a part of the land, it's realy shame for our generation. So, do not talk about the sovereignty of Taiwan, XiZang ,or any other part of China, otherwise you want be hated by almost 20% population of the world. When West talk about human rights with Chinese government, it's funny and crazy. We never sold African to American as serf. We never forced some country to buy our Opium by war. We do not cheat all the people in the world to invade Iraq. Then, no feeling about the 600,000 Iraqi dead in the war, but feel sad for 4,000 American soldiers died. When we talk about human rights, we should know that Chinese ,American ,and Iraqi are the same human beings. Kill Chinese baby is crime and unforgiveable, just as kill an American baby. So what you want to do to save the Iraqi? They need more defence from West. For you said you are democracy, and the goverment are to the people, of the people and by the people, so of course West people should stop killing in Iraq. And if West people do not, you are crime and unforgiveable. China is a big country.I lives in East of China, but my wift is from the Middle. Some of my classmate live in South of China and other place. We can talk by QQ if we are free. So I can get local information by the resident, and I believe it's rich than 'selective bits and pieces of what is really happening' in most China. I do not know what the content of your banner, and why you want show it in Tiananmen Square.It's very sepcial for all the Chinese. If you want hurt the feeling of Chinese, Do not do it. Realy, it's none business to West about XiZang and Taiwan, these are Chinese private. And it's a shame for us when others talk about it. You are from Philippines? Well, if most Chinese think Philippines should split to seven or eight parts, otherwise Philippines would not be happy. So we just give some money and weapon to the separatist organization, train them fighting and killing, just as CIA have done for Tibet, and when they killed people and burned your buildings, we say it's peaceful parade and Philippines government should not crake down it. Would you feel nice and thankful for China? It has happend in LaSa. So it's reasonable that Chinese people feel angry and be hurt when they know the reports of West press and the option of West people. 'One dream, one world', it's not true for all. Realy we have one world, but we have not one dream.
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4/13/2008 8:08 am |
Your government claims that all Tibetans support Chinese rule, yet why are protests erupting in Tibet? Why are monks getting killed? We were colonized by the Spaniards for 400 years, but that did not make us part of Spain. Eventually we rose against them and claimed our independence. Just because you claim a country is yours does not make that claim immediately true. The Tibetans have always had their own culture separate and distinct from the Chinese. History shows that the rulers of China once dealt with the rulers of Tibet on equal footing, not as a subordinate. I am not from the West, but then, if, as you claim, all of the West are wrong, why is there no censorship in the West, but censorship in your country? What is your government so afraid of that it has to control all information streaming into your country? The CNN that you watch is constantly monitored and constantly censored. Are you even allowed to dissent? To put forth an opinion that is not in agreement with your leaders? Even your internet content is constantly censored as well. I am not an American, so why do you ask me about Iraq? I denounce that war as well, and more and more American people are disapproving of the continued presence of their troops in Iraq. As I have said, all our banner had to say was that we were a tour group from the Philippines. Was that something that had to be censored as well? Why can we not talk about the sovereignty of Tibet or Taiwan? These are issues that need to be debated fully and equally, as the people of Tibet want. Why should that not be done? Why is it that only one side needs to be heard, your side or none at all, and if anyone does not follow your line of thinking, we are immediately wrong? Why, as gowerboy asks, does China refuse to have a dialogue? If China has nothing to hide, why cannot the outside world see how it is dealing with Tibet? I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/13/2008 10:36 pm |
'Your government claims that all Tibetans support Chinese rule, yet why are protests erupting in Tibet? Why are monks getting killed?' =>Last year there are 400,000 visitors to XiZang.Just in 3.14, many West visitors are just in XiZang. But after 3.14, when Chinese people found that West support mob and lie to the world, they are forbidden. Monks are very special? They kill tens people,they burned up young girls, one baby, and many buildings. Their hands are full of Chinese blood.Why you not care about the girls ,the baby? And DaLai leis to the world.He offer a person list who killed by Chinese government. Well, only 8 are realy existing, but they all live in XiZang now. And most of the list can not find out. It's funny when we see a man says he himself doesn't die. 'Why can we not talk about the sovereignty of Tibet or Taiwan? ' =>Of course you can say anything you like. But when you said the killers are peaceful, the Chinese government should not crakedown, and we should be killed, cerntainly we are hurt. We call you a LIER, a helper of killer. That's right? ' Why is it that only one side needs to be heard, your side or none at all, and if anyone does not follow your line of thinking, we are immediately wrong? ' =>Something is only one side. We love our country, and Han people, Zang people , Hui people ... the 56 ethnics are just in one big family.If someone want to split us, to hurt our union, or to dispersion lies and hat between us, No Way. Let's talk about your side. Well, how many Zang people you have chat with? Do you know how many Zang people out side of China and why they outside? Do you know how many Zang people within China and how they feel about 3.14 and even about DaLai? Do you get touch with some local people? Everything about XiZang you know just are just from West press just like CNN. Now 'CNN' means lier in China. You just make a judge on what you know nothing, even you realy do not care about. I care about XiZang, every Chinese care about XiZang, for Zang people are Chinese too, they are ours. Our side about XiZang is not important for you watchers? But options from millions miles away are important for u? It's funny and crazy.
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4/13/2008 11:45 pm |
The Tibetans want their independence. They consider themselves a separate people from the Chinese. Why do the Chinese keep insisting they are not Tibetans? How would you feel if people kept insisting you should not be Chinese but something else? All they want is their identity back. Yet they cannot even have that. And again, why the constant censorhip? This is something I am puzzled about. You keep saying, this is the truth, this is what is really happening---why then are foreign journalists locked out of Tibet? Why is peaceful protest not allowed in your country? Consider this article on Wired: "Depending on what you read, the Chinese police cracked down on Tibetan civilians and monks over the week-end as peaceful protests turned violent, or the Tibetans (who've been culturally repressed for years) planned a riot and beat anyone who is not Tibetan. The Chinese authorities have, predictably, blocked access to you tube within China. And they've also been able to selectively block television news reports of the events in the Tibetan Capital of Lhasa. Much of the reporting from Lhasa and elsewhere in Tibet comes from bloggers, tourists and activism organizations rather than traditional news outlets, which appear to have been blocked from the region. Some enterprising bloggers are trying to evade China's Golden Shield by behaving like spammers -- deliberately mis-spelling words that China's censors have deemed troublesome and placed in its filtering system. Thus Michael D. Manning, who runs the news blog "The Opposite End of China," has posted photos of protesting monks at the Labrang Monastery in Xiahe in Tibet and captioned the photos with the word "FriendFinder" The China Digital Times, based in Berkeley, California, has a rolling slideshow of pictures from around the web of events as they've unfolded over the past several days in Tibet. Meanwhile, this translation of a local eye-witness account shows that the local authorities are pretty savvy users of communications technology themselves when it comes to public safety. The author of the piece received a couple of SMS messages from government officials telling them not to go outside on Friday because it wasn't safe. Interestingly, a self-righteous YouTube editorial uploaded on Sunday, which adopts the typical Chinese rhetorical tactic of pointing to Western countries' less-than-honorable pasts when it comes to ethnic minorities, is gaining traction. It's already clocked up more than 400,000 views. The poster hilariously compares China to Canada, and doesn't see the apparent irony in the following statement: "China is NOT a single Ethnic nation, in fact 56 ethnic groups make up China, including Han, Mongols, Koreans, Muslim, Tibetans, etc ... And we are all united as CHINESE, in other word, China is just as Multicultural as Canada, so DEAL WITH THAT!" If you haven't already read these longer pieces on China's architecture of censorship, check out Wired magazine's piece on China's firewall and its ultimately doomed future, and The Atlantic's James Fallows' more recent piece, which is somewhat more pessimistic." Can you even access you tube there? Why not try accessing those articles from where you are and see if you can? Then ask yourself why you cannot have free access to all information like most of the free world can? I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/13/2008 11:58 pm |
And ask yourself this also--why should a government decide for its people what they should or should not see so that they could make up their own minds about it? If you say these images are censored to protect the Chinese people, are you then saying that the Chinese people cannot make up their own minds as to what is right and what is wrong and that your government has to decide for you? Censorship is a way of continuously exercising control. I saw it personally when I was in Guangzhou when the TV screen would black out every time something about Tibet would come on. I saw it when police in Tiananmen Square refused to even let us open innocent banners. Would you not want to have free access to all information so you can see for yourself what is really happening and make up your own mind? I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/14/2008 9:13 am |
'The Tibetans want their independence. They consider themselves a separate people from the Chinese.' You believe so, but can you tell me why? Your God tell you this? If you talk about Zang people, you will suspected your God. If you know any Chinese and visit Chinese Web pages, you will find some files written by Zang younth, and you will find they are angry for they regared as weapon to attack their country. Last year 4,000,000 journalists went to XiZang. Mob killed about tens people, foreigh journalists are forbidden to visit it in the dangous time. It's reasonable. ------------------------------------- 'Then ask yourself why you cannot have free access to all information like most of the free world can?' There is no wall for me to access to all information from the West in network technology. I'm a software enginner. Well, the West, not the 'free world'. Maybe you just admir the West world, not me, and not the most Chinese. When Chinese army fighted againist the UN army in Koren in 1950s, we do not admir them. And I do not think they are free. They are just brainwashing and live in the lies. And even they are from free world, or they are Gods themself, if they want hurt Chinese, they will be punished. For we do not believe free world and God itself. Africans believe God, then they lose their people.Indians believe God, then they lose their land. You believe God, and you lose your language. Well, English is Filipino official language. Of course the most of Filipino people are not immigrants from England, why your official language is English? ------------------------------------------- 'why then are foreign journalists locked out of Tibet? ' mob kill people, just in a peaceful parade Free world said. About 1000 shops are ruined in fire by the mob. Can you tell how many shops should ruin, and how many people should be killed in a peaceful parade in your free world? Just give me an answer. Just to protect foreign journalists from mob. My answer, maybe not all for Chinese government, but it's reasonable. --------------------------------------------------------- 'Would you not want to have free access to all information so you can see for yourself what is really happening and make up your own mind?' Ask this question to yourself.Do not believe what BBS and CNN reported, for they are liers. You can login in QQ and search a friend living in XiZang and talk with him. 5 minutes enough. So many Chinese people use the QQ as IM tool on Internet, so you do not warry about that on the other side is a man working for Chinese government. I have been a member of Friendfinder for about 11 years.I can get information from Internet for many years, and I can reach almost all the public website. Well, I recognize I only know little about English and good at Chinese. But it's enough for me to find the difference between what happening in China and how report in your 'free world'. Realy, I know more than you about China. If your God told you that Chinese people just need you to tell what China is, kick out the God. I believe that you know more than me about Filipino. I do not care about your people, your government, your Muslims people living in south islands of Filipino and they just fight for independence. I do not think I should support one of your family to fight against other. Even I can not speak any local language in Filipino. ----------------------------------------------- I wish you Filipino people develope peaceful and happily, and no fight within your people. If the God you believe is realy exists, it will bless you. But when someone tell me that Chinese should fight to each other, and Zang people should kill Han people, and Han people should kill Dai people...They are not welcome for all Chinese. The truth is we are same as human beings. You are not more saintly than me only for you are from the free world.  Well, I could not stop laughing for the free world. Just within the free world, world war happened twice, West killed West in Europe. And there are 6,000,000 Iraqi killed by the soldiers from free world only for oil. And fortunately, your ancestors are not sold as a serf by the free world. Tell you a truth, Even CIA itself and US Government believe XiZang is a part of China. And DaLai is only a tool to disgust Chinese government. Yes, we all know XiZang could not split from China. But they just disgust us. So we are not worried about Zang people, for they are our family. We just feel angry to your free world.
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4/14/2008 9:28 am |
YouTube is not welcome for Chinese, for it changed number of visitors, and banned some video they not like. But you do not know it, and you do not believe it. I believe a Chinese rather than believe a man from West, or from 'free world', surely.
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4/14/2008 10:33 am |
Can you really access everything? Why then do you have even your internet being watched over for content by censors? Were you able to access those articles? You tube is shut down to the Chinese because of some video they do not like--so how can you still say you have free access to everything? Not just from Chinese sources--from everywhere? So if all these riots are happening in Tibet, and as you say, 1000 shops have been destroyed, how can you keep insisting that the Tibetans are agreeing to what your government is doing? You keep saying they also want unity, be one with China, yet the protests are escalating. Doesn't sound consistent, does it? The Dalai Lama is now calling for China to open Tibet to all foreign journalists and visitors, so that the world can see for themselves what is truly happening to Tibet. Would your government be able to rise to the challenge? Would China be willing to do that? Thus far access to Tibet has been severely limited. (And as for English being the official language of the Philippines, er...you couldn't be more wrong. It's Tagalog) And believing someone just because he's Chinese--should truth have a nationality? If a western man tells the truth and a Chinese man tells a lie (and being a Fujianese, and Hokkien on my father's side, believe me, I've seen a lot of Chinese liars---even our tour guide to Beijing warned us against Chinese street vendors because they were untrustworthy. But as in every nationality, I've seen a lot of wonderful Chinese people as well, good people, honest and hardworking)--should the Chinese be believed simply because he's Chinese? There is good and bad wherever you go. Right and wrong isn't any particular race. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/14/2008 4:05 pm |
This essay was written by a Chinese student in Tibet, and translated and published by the China Digital News: "I’ve wanted to write something for a while in the wake of the latest developments in Tibetan regions. But after seeing press reports by media outlets from home and abroad, I don’t know whom to believe in. I lost my judgment. I tried to start writing, but then couldn’t continue because my feelings are too complex. This afternoon, I talked to a colleague again about this issue and the conversation escalated into a fight. The colleague finally used a very “Chinese Communist” style to stop me from “venting angry words.” Faced with irrationality, I zipped my mouth. I’ve worked with a variety of people, but I didn’t imagine that there are people who have been brainwashed so much, and I started to realize this issue isn’t a small matter! The key is, a lot of Han and some ethnic Tibetans with vested interests have become blind to the blue sky, white clouds, green mountains and water. Amidst the long history and mystical culture of Tibet, their brains are only thinking about how to commercialize these things. They don’t know that many aspects of the Tibetan way of life, religion and custom, culture and values are gradually being dismantled. Neither do they know that the dignity of Tibetans is shedding tears, and many Tibetans are struggling… Looking at Tibet, I sometimes feel ashamed to be a Han. Since first coming to Tibet in 2006 I often think about these issues: What on earth does Tibet need, how should it develop and who does it need to lead that development? I have no power to resist anything, nor do I have the intention to resist, after all our motherland is slowly making progress and our party is gradually inching toward democracy. As an ethnic university graduate and a Han who now works in the Tibetan region, these topics have surrounded me every day of my working life. In a civilized world in the 21st Century, when something incredible happens in a certain area but many people around us (including Tibetans) yell out about a crackdown and mass killing, should we seriously reflect on ourselves: Why? I have picked an article by an alumni [of the Central University of Nationalities] below. As a member of the Chinese nation, no matter which ethnicity, we, the future of the country, shall rethink the whole issue! ===== Those Who Throw Out Angry Rhetoric Please Apologize to Tibetan Compatriots What I write has no intention to be separatist or to damage ethnic solidarity. I love my motherland, love my people and love all my compatriots. I only hope that in this huge family, we can truly love one another, understand and tolerate one another, and truly live a harmonious life. We always mistakenly believe that whatever we do is progressive, but we are repeatedly committing mistakes. While walking on the streets in Lhasa, I always have a subconscious sad feeling. In a sacred place like Lhasa, I cannot find where I belong, and I’ve lost my direction. Jiangsu Road, Beijing Road, so on and so forth, these names pop up in front of my eyes. Roads named in Tibetan are few in number, and the city makes one feel like being in a mainland town. Children beggars swarm around me and when I see their aspiring eyes and the joy of getting some money, my heart bleeds, and language becomes pale. Occasionally, made-up ladies cozy up and wave toward me, wanting to saying something but I understand they are not just saying hello to me. The whole sacred city is filled with aid construction. I am not saying this is not good, and Tibetan people very much appreciate the help from other ethnic groups and the care from the central government. But those Hunan-aided and Shandong-financed post boards stand up high on the top of buildings, fearing that not enough people will recognize their generosity. But this philanthropic advertising is overstretched. Every ethnicity has its dignity, so imagine, will this hurt the feelings of the Tibetans? And the assistance buildings are not constructed based on Tibetan culture and ideas, but wild shapes and structures. Will Tibetans like these houses? Nowadays, there are so many prostitutes on the boulevards and small lanes, they number at least in the thousands. There was once a women’s movement that put out a slogan that says “Sichuan women get out, husbands return home.” Imagine how many people are engaged in prostitution! We cannot blame the Tibetan ethnicity, these are imports from the mainland. And their influence is so deep that it’s unimaginable. Those colorful women fill the streets wide and narrow and beam their seductive eyes around the crowds, which is for sure a blasphemy on Lhasa’s image. Still, we have no regret and, instead, have turned the sacred town into a setting of indulgence and satiating lust. Some even say that Tibetans are dark-colored and dirty. Yes, Tibetans are dark-skinned, but they have a red heart and pure belief. Look at us who believe ourselves to be light-colored. We feel proud about our faces being covered with chemical compounds. Tibetans are not dirty, and their hearts are pure and kind. We always stress the importance of Mandarin. Indeed Chinese is important and it’s our national official language. But in Lhasa and many Tibetan ethnic regions, there is a popular saying that goes, “Tibetan is a formality but Mandarin is the rice bowl.” That’s exactly as I see it–Many Tibetan students work hard on Mandarin for their future, and, as a result, many forget their own language. Of course there are a lot of reasons for this, for example some schools don’t have Tibetan language curriculum at all, and classes of mainland students are not allowed to speak Tibetan, etc. Language is the root of an ethnic group and to a great extent is a symbol that distinguishes one race from another. Without a language, an ethnic culture will also die along with it. On the other hand how many Han people understand Tibetan language and script? Which makes us feel deeply ashamed and sorry. There are so many Tibetans who can fluently speak Mandarin. I don’t know whether I should be happy or sad about this, but I feel there’s a serious lack of understanding between the two ethnic groups. Han people have their own holidays and customs, so do the Tibetans. In Lhasa, along with more contact with other ethnic groups, many Tibetans started to celebrate Han holidays, such as dragon boat festival and tomb sweeping festival, etc. But few spend Tibetan holidays with Tibetans. Some say Han culture is so tolerant and so influential. But do you truly understand the Tibetan holidays? When some people talk about sky burial, they associate it with cruelty and horror. But have you ever thought about that when a dead body is incinerated it perishes and when it gets buried it becomes part of the soil, while heavenly burial benefits other animals and alleviates their hunger, thus protecting them. What a noble burial and selfless funeral is this. But it is regarded as barbarian, primitive, cruel. So when you talk about this please read up a little and understand more about it! Many still stubbornly believe that rice is the best staple food. But when told that Tibetans eat Tsangba [roasted barley], their facial expression reflects shock, contempt, dismissal. It’s ridiculous and stupid and ignorant because tsangba is actually a pure and unpolluted natural food. All these examples are beyond reason but they happen around us. Some only know that there are Tibetans in Tibet, but don’t know that there are Tibetans in other provinces. Some only know there’s a Lhasa in Tibet but don’t know any other place there. But they still randomly say outrageous things about Tibet. Let’s also talk about those cadres who assisted the development of Tibet. Were/are they really coming to help Tibet? So many of them have returned to their home bases for promotions after a short stint in Tibet. I heard about a friend’s uncle, who stayed in Tibet for less than four years and took 800,000 yuan back to the mainland. There are many stories like this, going back home from Tibet to skyrocket in their career or buy villas, so on and so forth. Did they come to Tibet to work for the good of Tibetans? How much contribution did they make to Tibet? Where did the money go after the state earmarked it for Tibet? I don’t even want to imagine, the more I think about it the more frightful it gets. Let me also talk about the inner land (neidi) classes for Tibetans. I don’t know about other ethnic groups’ neidi classes but I know quite a bit about the Tibetan ones. Everything they study is written in Mandarin and the history they learn is also Han history. What about Tibetan history? As a Tibetan who doesn’t know his/her own history, is he/she still a Tibetan? Of course there is reason for this but shall we consider their racial feelings and ethnic belonging? Many years later, many kids have made tremendous progress in Mandarin but their Tibetan level is still elementary. Let me also talk a bit about March 14. China’s coverage of it has been indeed thorough and detailed. But some issues have been haunting me still. For instance, in the news, a lot of information was “according to reliable sources/materials.” I don’t know how reliable these pieces of information are. Where on earth are the sources? Why not tell us, the public? Videos on March 14 shown on the Internet are truly saddening. No matter which ethnic group, it’s heart-wrenching. But let’s look at the comments and our netizens, who speak about killing or exterminating in every sentence. Why are we so extremist? Why so partial? How about let’s try not to preemptively judge certain people without getting the whole story? No ethnic group is composed of all good people. Why not say things like that? Shall we also reflect upon our own behavior and our own mistakes? To kill all Tibetans, isn’t it a little irresponsible? We did make efforts to develop solidarity and the growth of Han and Tibetan cultures. But we ignore the feelings and belief of Tibetan compatriots. We did give, but we didn’t do it sincerely enough and not perfectly enough. Not only shall we give in terms of material, but also spiritual, support. We shall offer our help with an equal and caring attitude, not just to do cosmetic work. Think about it: China has run Tibet for so many years and now we have this situation over there, there are so many things we should reflect on about ourselves. We cannot always think that we are always right and we are the best. For those who randomly say outrageous things, please apologize to our kind Tibetan compatriots. Only mutual understanding and trust can build up our truly harmonious society…" The Dalai Lama wants autonomy, not even independence, for Tibet--a chance for his people to have the right to stay Tibetans. He has been criticized by some Tibetans for being too weak for wanting this. And yet the Chinese government constantly paint him as a demon in your media, and police troops constantly demand that monks denounce him, which they refuse. All Tibetans want is to be left alone to BE Tibetans, to keep their identity, their culture, their language, their very essence as a people. And yet when they peacefully protest againt the systematic obliteration of all these by your government, they are arrested, the protests cracked down on, monks killed. My own brother was just in Tibet last year and decried the rampant commercialization happening there without thought for the Tibetan culture---there's even a Chinese karaoke bar at the bottom of the Potala Palace!!!! And then you wonder why the nations around the world are reacting against you. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/14/2008 10:42 pm |
Well, I don't know where you get the file. Since American president have lied to all the people over the earth, and Iraqi have dead millions for his lies, so I will say I do not believe the information from your free world. I have given you a way to get touch with Zang people directly by yourself. Just from QQ, you can know hundreds of them in a day. And you can know thousands of them in a month by QQ. You can talk with them yourself. I suggest all West who care about XiZang, just talk with them yourself directly. No one would feel nice if he was used as a tool to attack his family. I can access YouTube by proxy.Do not warry about Chinese people, we are more happy than 1949, than 1937, than 1921, than 1914, than 1904, than 1860 ... No one dare to invade China now. I live in Nanjing, and in 1937 Japaness killed 300,000 Chinese here. Now I do not fear them. We are realy happy.
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4/15/2008 2:43 am |
I know of Nanjing---the free world knows of the atrocities you have experienced with the Japanese. We in the Philippines were also occupied by the Japanese in WW2, and on the day of our Liberation by American forces Filipinos were massacred by the thousands, babies thrown in the air and bayoneted, women raped. I am glad no one dares invade your country. But just because you are strong, does this mean you will step on other people as well? Why has your government shut down Tibet and refused access to all outsiders if they have nothing to hide? Can you freely dissent with anything your government does without fear of any repercussions? This is what being in the free world to us means. This is what we Filipinos fought for and died during our time with the Spaniards. The right to voice our opinions, to treat our leaders as humans who can make mistakes, to criticize them if they do make these mistakes without any fear, is the foundation of democracy. Do you have this right, this freedom of speech and expression in your country, or do you constantly fear that the government will crack down on you as well if you so much as voice a differing opinion? Given what I have seen when we were in Tiananmen, I say not. Given what I have seen when we were in Guangzhou, I say not. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 6:46 am |
'Why has your government shut down Tibet and refused access to all outsiders if they have nothing to hide?' -> I'm tired to answer this question again and again. Last time, well, after 3.14, Chinese refused access because for safety. This afternoon I chat with a resident in Lasa by QQ. She is 36 years old, married and have children.She told me that some tourist have appeared in the streets, and all bad men have arrested ,so there is safe now. And this night I watched TV about LaSa. There are many people in the street and market, and they walk ,talk ,and smile just like other place in China. I am sure most ban man have been arrested. If necessary I can give you her QQ number. You can talk with here yourself. What's more, I will teach you how to seach on QQ, you can talk with thousands residents in XiZang. Maybe one resident would lie to you, but why all Chinese lie to you? Or what you believe in is wrong at all. -------- Not only 1937. Free world army have invaded Nanjin again and again in the passed 100 years, including England and France Army. They forced the Chinese government buy their Opium, or they got our land. Just during this period, England army attacked XiZang, and killed many Zang people in 1888, and again in 1903. They killed many resident. Thousands Zang people and Han people died in the war. Maybe you can find record about this in England history book.Every Chinese middle school student has lerned it in history lesson. I wish you have proof to show that England army did not do it in 1888 and in 1903. If you know more Chinese history, you would understand why we are so angry when the West talk human rights about XiZang. They never apologize for what they have done to Chinese, and now they come to teach us human rights. I do not mean we Chinese should do all to West just like they have done in China. We want to develope ourself peacefully. For myself, my habit is playing wow in the night, but not writting Blog in English. It's hard for me. But if I could do something to let West know a little about truth, I'd like to do so.
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4/15/2008 7:08 am |
About West censor. They are not welcome, and not suitable. First, it's none of west business. Second reason is about culture. Mob are Chinese too. It's shame for Chinese all. Maybe your president felt that some West censor beside the bed then she could be more higher in fucing, but Chinese don't think so. I not mean your president was wrong, just different culture. Last, China is an independent country, and our government don't need any commending and agreement from West. Chinese people support their government. That's much enough.
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