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Dear Online Player, I don't know who you are, and I don't think I do want to get to know you at all. I got up close and personal with some of you (or was it just one of you?) when I was a newbie, when you thought it was great sport to pretend to be this brilliant young lady who didn't think it enough to dazzle me with imaginary accomplishments (and so managed to hook me into having wonderfully stimulating conversations with you where I felt fortunate to have become friends with one so gifted), but you just had to concoct an entire cast of supporting characters to keep up with the ruse. Silly me back then, naively thinking everyone would be as honest and as up front as I was with who and what they were online. After a while though, I began to see that the pieces you so carefully crafted didn't fit. So I kept up with your ruse, along with a couple of my authentic online friends whom you tried to bamboozle as well, and eventually we turned the tables on you and kicked your sorry arse back to the rathole from whence you came. We were fortunate in that sense, because you only tried to hook us with friendship, knowing that anything romantic wouldn't fly with me, being married. But after that one incident, I began to develop a healthy cynicism about people online. And I began to see that you were legion, with so many manifestations in so many different people it's difficult to keep track. You came in the guise of one so charming and nice you had women eating out of your hand in the chatroom while promising each and every one of them they were the only one for you, and that all those rumors about other women being linked to you were nothing more than rumor-mongering from jealous gossips who had nothing better to do. You were so manipulative you made up this elaborate drama about killing yourself, then emailing your then online fiancee, pretending to be your sister and telling her that you were already dead. When nobody bought the ridiculous tale (because they were already suspecting you were nothing but an attention-seeking Drama Queen), you miraculously came back to life and claimed someone who had it in for you hacked into your computer to send that email and that the FBI were already investigating it. Why the FBI would even bother with some hick from the boondocks of Montana I would never know, but that was your story and you were sticking to it. Then you finally met your online fiancee who was so in love with you she couldn't see the forest for the trees, but you dumped her right off and then disappeared. When she finally realized what a lowdown lying snake you really were, she decided to move on and meet someone new, and that was when you saw fit to resurrect yourself and claim you still loved her. Poor you, she wasn't buying it anymore, so you moved on to a more vulnerable target, and when your ex-fiancee tried to warn her about you, you raged and ranted about how jealous the poor deluded woman was, badmouthing you like that. Eventually even your new target realized what a manipulative psycho you really were, and finally dumped you after you kept harassing her on her cellphone. You disappeared from chat, but we all know that like a snake, you're just biding your time, hibernating until you think the heat is off, so you can resurrect and play your little mind games on a new batch of women all over again, and wreak havoc with their emotions. Oh but let's not forget, you can be women too. Women like that supposed German girl from Berlin who made a friend of mine in the UK buy a ticket to visit you, only to claim, two days before his flight, that you had to move out of your flat and that you would immediately email him your new address. Of course you never did--you were never heard from again--and my friend was left holding a ticket he couldn't refund because you made him buy it on sale for his own good. You can be more than one woman as well, creating an entire new persona out of thin air, customizing it to fit the dreams of someone who turned you down, just so you could get back at him. You pretended to be someone blonde and blue-eyed from North Carolina, but who had to go to Kenya to be with your missionary father who unfortunately had an accident when the riots began there, so noble daughter that you were, you had to rush off to his rescue, but lo! And behold! You got into a car accident there yourself which necessitated brain surgery, no less! While your created persona was purportedly languishing in the hospital, you stepped in as yourself and, pretending to be your other persona's good friend, kept emailing the poor man with constant updates with how the poor woman from North Carolina was doing. You would have kept this soap opera going on and on and on, except that the man you tried to play who was another good friend of mine, wasn't as clueless as you thought, and managed to get software that tracked down both your email address and the one of the persona you created, and well--let's just say that with all his suspicions about you, he wasn't entirely surprised to find out you both were in Pretoria, South Africa, with the exact same ISP. And now here you are again in another guise—a different person to be sure--but animated by the same motivation to play with people, emailing women on the blogs en masse, using the exact same words and the exact same approach, claiming to be writing to no one else but them, wanting to be with no one but them alone. I wonder what kick you must get out of this. (I wonder too if you just BCC every woman on your mailing list with the exact same romantic crap because you're too lazy to even email them individually) Does it seem like the most gut-busting fun to your sort to play with people's emotions this way? Do you think this makes you cool, managing to turn people's heads with honeyed words and elaborately staged ploys? Do you think you're better than the poor deluded souls you've managed to string along? Smarter? Craftier? Superior? I don't think so. I think you are a poor excuse of a human being whose pathetic ego needs such stroking and shoring up that you have to resort to schemes like these just to get satisfaction. I believe deep inside you hate yourself with such a vengeance that you must spread your bitterness and venom to others, because to keep it to yourself would be unbearable. I believe that you have a cruel, sick, nasty and twisted streak in you that provides you with the necessary conviction that it's fine to toy with people, it's absolutely OK to lie to them, because what are they worth to you anyway? Would this even change your mind? I doubt it. Your kind is addicted to the thrill of taking people for a ride, to putting one over someone naïve enough to swallow everything you said hook, line and sinker. You will do this again and again, for as long as there are people who believe in the innate goodness of others. I write this to vent, because I feel for my friends who have been lied to and manipulated, when their only “fault” was to wish that they would find in here someone to love, and be loved in return. But you know what? Those you have strung along have it better than you a thousandfold, because they can still hope, they can still dream, they can move on. Someday they will find someone worthy of their love and loyalty, and so find true happiness. You, however, are stuck in a rut, unable to climb up from the hole of hate and lies and pettiness you have dug for yourself. And so you must constantly do this over and over, unable to find true contentment, never at peace, constantly needing to reaffirm your own negligible worth by duping others. You are nothing more than an emotional con man, empty and hollow, and eventually—you can bet your bottom dollar on this, too--karma will catch up with you. If it hasn't already. Sgd., The Ticked Off MunchkinMatron I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion. |
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 4/15/2008 3:32 am |
now thats what i call a letter, you tell him, her? whats up with these people, why spoil the fun of others? ok can we have a witch hunt, can we, can we, lets find them all and expose them. whats it all about if you cant have a laugth and a shag every now and then
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4/15/2008 3:33 am |
I'm a healthy cynic myself (although I should give up the smoking). When I wrote that "Success Story" post, I tried to exaggerate some of what goes on around here. Sadly, I wasn't even close to the truth.
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4/15/2008 3:57 am |
MunchkinMatron2 I am absolutely agree with you. players deserve that what they did with the other.      
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4/15/2008 4:07 am |
Absolutely gobsmacked!!!! The time and energy needed to lead this "multiple" life is beyond my comprehension. Gad, Pretoria - might explain it. Nothing much to do there. Is this still ongoing? Related at all to the current blog debacle? This quite a new learning curve.
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4/15/2008 4:08 am |
Very nicely written MM and thank you for making such a strong stance. With the same emotions that you have expressed, I do have several friends, very close friends, that had been taken by such words of promise and grandeur from the person as well. Finding the trust, again , here on line...will never be the same, and I am afraid, have made my close friends even shy away from a wonderful friendship we once shared. To lose someone's trust ...that someone else has destroyed, has taken it's toll. So when this person reads your blog, and I'm sure they will, I wonder if they will be able to conceive the notice of all they have destroyed...and I am not only speaking of my loss, but the loss of those that were tremendously hurt by such an underhanded, lying, deceitful representation of a human being. Heavens
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4/15/2008 4:16 am |
Hiya, is this one of the same, or a different one...???....god...it goes on and on and on....very well written...
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 4/15/2008 5:35 am |
Perhaps FF should give their over zealous censors something better to do then keeping an eye out for adults using naughty four letter words. It would be far more constructive to watch for IP addresses creating multiple personalities. Good job Ana, if you really are Ana  . Unfortunately, in regards to what Heavenstouch said, it's doubtful this person will have any feelings about what they have done other then gloating. Anyone who could go to this much effort is either emotionally ill or just an(look away, censors) a$$whole. Nah, that's not misspelled.If this is the person I suspect it is, I had suspicions for a long time. They were everywhere I went. In nearly every network list. There are others I have suspicions about too but with all due respect to Ricardo,a witch hunt gives me the same bad feelings as what this scoundrel has done. Enjoy the ride. All you take with you when you leave is the experience.
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4/15/2008 6:31 am |
GGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRR people like that make me mad (or should i say madder than I am) What sick please can they get out of it  Home of the hammered hearts club 
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4/15/2008 7:02 am |
My initial thoughts are*&^%$#*&^%$. But I'll keep my sarcastic tongue to my self. This is the same man who attempted to pit Ari, and myself against each other. Not realizing, I was saving his emails, and sharing them with Ari. My indifference towards him was very clear, and my questioning nature received quite a explosive response from him. Neither I or Ari ever dreamed he would continue this behavior. I never should have underestimated him.. I'm only associated with only a few people here. I was completely unaware how wide spread his actions were until yesterday when, I clicked on rachieannelol post, and then contacted Ari. My heart go's out to those ladies effected by his stunts. But there is something that has come from this. Those who have never spoken before are. And the chain of communication on such issues, will no longer have a missing link.. ps...James, I have his IP Abby.. I'm working on just that... Perfection Isn't Sexy
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4/15/2008 7:08 am |
"He who plays with fire will be burnt". May such players get a bit smarter and be more mature(mentally) as well. Salute Ana, for the letter you posted. Agnes
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4/15/2008 7:34 am |
My initial thoughts are*&^%$#*&^%$. But I'll keep my sarcastic tongue to my self. This is the same man who attempted to pit Ari, and myself against each other. Not realizing, I was saving his emails, and sharing them with Ari. My indifference towards him was very clear, and my questioning nature received quite a explosive response from him. Neither I or Ari ever dreamed he would continue this behavior. I never should have underestimated him.. I'm only associated with only a few people here. I was completely unaware how wide spread his actions were until yesterday when, I clicked on rachieannelol post, and then contacted Ari. My heart go's out to those ladies effected by his stunts. But there is something that has come from this. Those who have never spoken before are. And the chain of communication on such issues, will no longer have a missing link.. ps...James, I have his IP Abby.. I'm working on just that... 
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4/15/2008 7:39 am |
Ana....fabulous (remind me never ever to pi$$ you off!  ) The unfortunate reality is that he will probably not read this, and if he does, will shrug it off and go find another place to play his nasty games. Doubtful that he will care about the hurt he has caused. Funny thing is that Riny told me about him--said there was something about that person he just didn't trust. Said his blogs were designed to pull women in emotionally. Gad, Riny is soooooo astute about people. As I've always said, the truth will out--eventually. My advice, if you think you're being played--talk about it--because you're probably not alone. Let people know. Why he does he do what he does--I don't much care--what I care about more is how do the people he's played recover? Hope your friend still went to Berlin and had a wonderful time, in spite of being lied to. Agree with SirT--no witch hunt. He's been exposed for what he really is--and if there are others, eventually they too will be exposed--as long as the people involved keep talking to each other and do not hide in secrecy. As always, "be careful out there." Wishing you happiness Misty
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4/15/2008 7:41 am |
now thats what i call a letter, you tell him, her? whats up with these people, why spoil the fun of others? ok can we have a witch hunt, can we, can we, lets find them all and expose them. The best way to expose these liars is for the ones who have been led on to speak up about what they have done, as rachieanne did, to warn others. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 7:44 am |
I'm a healthy cynic myself (although I should give up the smoking). When I wrote that "Success Story" post, I tried to exaggerate some of what goes on around here. Sadly, I wasn't even close to the truth. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 7:46 am |
MunchkinMatron2 I am absolutely agree with you. players deserve that what they did with the other. Thanks for dropping by. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 8:07 am |
Absolutely gobsmacked!!!! The time and energy needed to lead this "multiple" life is beyond my comprehension. Gad, Pretoria - might explain it. Nothing much to do there. Is this still ongoing? Related at all to the current blog debacle? This quite a new learning curve. The one about the guy who faked his death started as far back as 4 years ago, but his latest shenanigan with his new target happened just this year. That was also about the same time that alleged gal from Berlin played with a good online friend of mine. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 8:09 am |
Very nicely written MM and thank you for making such a strong stance. With the same emotions that you have expressed, I do have several friends, very close friends, that had been taken by such words of promise and grandeur from the person as well. Finding the trust, again , here on line...will never be the same, and I am afraid, have made my close friends even shy away from a wonderful friendship we once shared. To lose someone's trust ...that someone else has destroyed, has taken it's toll. So when this person reads your blog, and I'm sure they will, I wonder if they will be able to conceive the notice of all they have destroyed...and I am not only speaking of my loss, but the loss of those that were tremendously hurt by such an underhanded, lying, deceitful representation of a human being. Heavens These are the people who make life difficult for the genuine ones online. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 8:14 am |
Hiya, is this one of the same, or a different one...???....god...it goes on and on and on....very well written... When Silver told me about Scott, it rang a warning bell inside my head. To find that he led you on, as he was trying with Cheryl as well, and to see that he tried with belle and Ari before that, and to have been Levi's sounding board when he was being taken for a merry ride by this woman, it just finally ticked me off that I had to blog about it. I wanted people to see they're not alone, and that this sort of misrepresentation happens all the time, to a lot of people, and if we are to help prevent new people from being taken in, then we should speak up. As you bravely did. Hats off to you. I hate it that this sort of thing happens at all. These liars have the gall to do it online because the anonymity it provides gives them a sense of freedom to manufacture whatever tale they want. They can hide behind a mask and feel no sense of culpability. Cowards. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 8:18 am |
Perhaps FF should give their over zealous censors something better to do then keeping an eye out for adults using naughty four letter words. It would be far more constructive to watch for IP addresses creating multiple personalities. Good job Ana, if you really are Ana . Unfortunately, in regards to what Heavenstouch said, it's doubtful this person will have any feelings about what they have done other then gloating. Anyone who could go to this much effort is either emotionally ill or just an(look away, censors) a$$whole. Nah, that's not misspelled.If this is the person I suspect it is, I had suspicions for a long time. They were everywhere I went. In nearly every network list. There are others I have suspicions about too but with all due respect to Ricardo,a witch hunt gives me the same bad feelings as what this scoundrel has done. I do wish though, that those who have truly been played (and not just rejected, mind) would come out and let their voices be heard. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 8:22 am |
GGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRR people like that make me mad (or should i say madder than I am) What sick please can they get out of it I've been the shoulder-to-cry-on by so many real people who have been duped in so many varied ways it isn't funny. And like you, it makes me very angry. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 8:31 am |
My initial thoughts are*&^%$#*&^%$. But I'll keep my sarcastic tongue to my self. This is the same man who attempted to pit Ari, and myself against each other. Not realizing, I was saving his emails, and sharing them with Ari. My indifference towards him was very clear, and my questioning nature received quite a explosive response from him. Neither I or Ari ever dreamed he would continue this behavior. I never should have underestimated him.. I'm only associated with only a few people here. I was completely unaware how wide spread his actions were until yesterday when, I clicked on rachieannelol post, and then contacted Ari. My heart go's out to those ladies effected by his stunts. But there is something that has come from this. Those who have never spoken before are. And the chain of communication on such issues, will no longer have a missing link.. ps...James, I have his IP Abby.. I'm working on just that... But what Misty said is right--he has no remorse, and the best thing to do is not to make him feel guilty, but to keep exposing him for the bastard he really is. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 8:35 am |
"He who plays with fire will be burnt". May such players get a bit smarter and be more mature(mentally) as well. Salute Ana, for the letter you posted. But if not, may a hundred thousand fleas infest their nether regions.  I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 8:42 am |
Ana....fabulous (remind me never ever to pi$$ you off! ) The unfortunate reality is that he will probably not read this, and if he does, will shrug it off and go find another place to play his nasty games. Doubtful that he will care about the hurt he has caused. Funny thing is that Riny told me about him--said there was something about that person he just didn't trust. Said his blogs were designed to pull women in emotionally. Gad, Riny is soooooo astute about people. As I've always said, the truth will out--eventually. My advice, if you think you're being played--talk about it--because you're probably not alone. Let people know. Why he does he do what he does--I don't much care--what I care about more is how do the people he's played recover? Hope your friend still went to Berlin and had a wonderful time, in spite of being lied to. Agree with SirT--no witch hunt. He's been exposed for what he really is--and if there are others, eventually they too will be exposed--as long as the people involved keep talking to each other and do not hide in secrecy. As always, "be careful out there." I also tell people I talk to that if they're truly, truly serious about someone they met online, and are planning to make some life changing decisions because of this someone, to spend some money and have their backgrounds checked. There are online sites that do these for a not too substantial fee, that can even do criminal record checks. I mean, what's 50 bucks or so just to make sure that a person is really who he/she is claiming to be? Unfortunately, that friend of mine didn't go to Berlin as he didn't have any hotel reservations since he was expecting that he'd be staying with this girl. And he couldn't change the date of the ticket because it was on sale. (Good on Riny--I actually had misgivings about that Scott bloke myself, since he just seemed too earnestly trying hard romantic he already came across as smarmy to me) I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 8:47 am |
Hiya rachie--these are all different incidents, but I wrote them in such a way as to show that all these players are the same, just the faces change. All of them motivated by the same lack of conscience. When Silver told me about Scott, it rang a warning bell inside my head. To find that he led you on, as he was trying with Cheryl as well, and to see that he tried with belle and Ari before that, and to have been Levi's sounding board when he was being taken for a merry ride by this woman, it just finally ticked me off that I had to blog about it. I wanted people to see they're not alone, and that this sort of misrepresentation happens all the time, to a lot of people, and if we are to help prevent new people from being taken in, then we should speak up. As you bravely did. Hats off to you. I hate it that this sort of thing happens at all. These liars have the gall to do it online because the anonymity it provides gives them a sense of freedom to manufacture whatever tale they want. They can hide behind a mask and feel no sense of culpability. Cowards. 
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4/15/2008 9:13 am |
In the end, such players are to be pitied even more than the folks they preyed on, because the sum total of everything points to a desperation that borders on real sickness. The last thing certain people need is a computer, an internet connection, and a whole world of lonely people who might trust them. Ho dog. What a fantastic blog! ~ Brian
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4/15/2008 9:49 am |
Thankyou, you have answered my question that i put to Ana, was this the same guy...and that Potterspal was asking too...it just gets worse by the hour....i cannot believe what i have just read on this post, and Ana writes it so well, oh i am so so sad.... I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 11:35 am |
Why is it that when you want something so bad you let your guard down? Women and men alike on FF want to find that special someone to connect with and accept people at 'keyboard' value. Promises and lies are all too common in online relationships. I feel for those that have been duped an maybe it is my untrusting nature not to accept too much of what is said. Maybe that is because I am looking for something different here. Those that have been duped by someone should never feel bad about being so, but should expose and name them publicly so others can see not only who they are but show these people up for what they have done. A public flogging so to speak. I would think that it would be shame enough to make these a$$wholes (Sir T's word ) maybe think twice before crossing those here again. The next victim will never know if people don't speak out. Well done MM for your so well put together words.
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4/15/2008 12:26 pm |
I think I saw this episode of All My Children! Just kidding, I've obviously never had this trouble because I've not been here so long. But I've seen this before on other chat sites. People are nasty, nasty beings at times. Don't let them get you down, tho. Just enjoy the blogs and keep a weather eye out for crazies. Cheers! Cheers!
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4/15/2008 3:28 pm |
Sometimes, I think we set ourselves up for players as well--when we're feeling blue, down in the dumps, lonely, vulnerable.... it's at those moments we need to be triply careful and not to rush into anything. The best thing is to take your time, and ask people about your online "crush." Read what they post very carefully--ask direct questions. and above all, keep your needs, wants and desires in check... Wishing you happiness Misty
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4/15/2008 4:47 pm |
Funny, I agree with everyone. Very well put, Ana. Oh, and everyone, please remind me never to pi$$ any of you off. You all know each other, and one day, are gonna become a mob. LOL. Of course, I will prolly be one of you. I am all for vengence. I think it should be instructional, though. If they don't learn a lesson, then it is just a different kind of meanness. Be well all. Especially you Munch. His Imperial Majesty, The Crowned Prince of Joy, The best, and always right, Jimy
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4/15/2008 6:03 pm |
In the end, such players are to be pitied even more than the folks they preyed on, because the sum total of everything points to a desperation that borders on real sickness. The last thing certain people need is a computer, an internet connection, and a whole world of lonely people who might trust them. Ho dog. What a fantastic blog! ~ Brian Sometimes I wonder what these players are in real life, and do they ever think that what they are doing might someday be done, not even to them, but to their children, their relatives, their loved ones? I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 6:15 pm |
Why is it that when you want something so bad you let your guard down? Women and men alike on FF want to find that special someone to connect with and accept people at 'keyboard' value. Promises and lies are all too common in online relationships. I feel for those that have been duped an maybe it is my untrusting nature not to accept too much of what is said. Maybe that is because I am looking for something different here. Those that have been duped by someone should never feel bad about being so, but should expose and name them publicly so others can see not only who they are but show these people up for what they have done. A public flogging so to speak. I would think that it would be shame enough to make these a$$wholes (Sir T's word ) maybe think twice before crossing those here again. The next victim will never know if people don't speak out.Well done MM for your so well put together words. A lot of these abuses online happen because of the nature of this medium--these idiots wouldn't dare pull off these shenanigans in real life. I'm willing to bet a lot of them are losers in real life too, which is why they reinvent themselves online. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 6:22 pm |
I think I saw this episode of All My Children! Just kidding, I've obviously never had this trouble because I've not been here so long. But I've seen this before on other chat sites. People are nasty, nasty beings at times. Don't let them get you down, tho. Just enjoy the blogs and keep a weather eye out for crazies. Cheers! I just get ticked off when good people I know get led on, you know? (Hugs, and a baby toe nibble for the lil one) I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 7:07 pm |
can you whisper who is the "kawatan?" hah. i'm totally flabbergasted! tsk. Growing old is inevitable. Growing up is optional
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4/15/2008 7:08 pm |
gandang morning pretty mom smile and be happy always
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4/15/2008 9:16 pm |
 to you Munchkin for your expose on the players. Even when outted though, these kind just wait until the hoopla dies down then come slithering out of the woodwork to dupe again. It's sad there are people out there with so little conscience they can do this over and over. But having something so well written by one so respected on these blogs will hopefully make a player think twice before trying a song and dance routine again.
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4/15/2008 10:53 pm |
Usually the best way to tell you are being played is if the person starts promising too many things from the start. Also if they compliment way too much, get skittish or angry when you ask them something simple or personal, or seem too serious from the get go or are in a rush to get to know you. The genuine ones are generally more relaxed, take their time and usually more down to earth and not too slick and wordy. However, there is an exception for everything, and it is up to the person to have good instincts about who they are getting to know. My best advice is just to never rush into anything. If you can't convince them, confuse them!
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4/15/2008 11:11 pm |
You know with all that has been said, I am now left wondering how many of the genuine nice guys here on this site are now worried about contacting any of these women who have been duped or even new ones. These lowlife guys are ruining it for the genuine ones and making all the women here nervous of any contact not knowing who to trust and who not to. I really think anyone who has been played be it a woman or a guy need to publish the handle to enlighten the rest as to who to trust and who not to. We all realise that when we are seeking love we read more into what is actually being said especially when we are down and blue. Who wouldn't but we need to be aware of who are the genuine ones and who aren't. Personally, I am not looking for anything but friends. I already have a lover.
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4/15/2008 11:20 pm |
Sometimes, I think we set ourselves up for players as well--when we're feeling blue, down in the dumps, lonely, vulnerable.... it's at those moments we need to be triply careful and not to rush into anything. The best thing is to take your time, and ask people about your online "crush." Read what they post very carefully--ask direct questions. and above all, keep your needs, wants and desires in check... Being duped by these snakes is like being penalized for being honest and trusting, and then we wonder why the world is becoming jaded and uncaring. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 11:24 pm |
can you whisper who is the "kawatan?" hah. i'm totally flabbergasted! tsk. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 11:25 pm |
gandang morning pretty mom I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 11:44 pm |
to you Munchkin for your expose on the players. Even when outted though, these kind just wait until the hoopla dies down then come slithering out of the woodwork to dupe again. It's sad there are people out there with so little conscience they can do this over and over. But having something so well written by one so respected on these blogs will hopefully make a player think twice before trying a song and dance routine again.I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 11:48 pm |
Usually the best way to tell you are being played is if the person starts promising too many things from the start. Also if they compliment way too much, get skittish or angry when you ask them something simple or personal, or seem too serious from the get go or are in a rush to get to know you. The genuine ones are generally more relaxed, take their time and usually more down to earth and not too slick and wordy. However, there is an exception for everything, and it is up to the person to have good instincts about who they are getting to know. My best advice is just to never rush into anything. What saddens me, though, is that our present society is in such a state that we actually need these guidelines in dealing with our fellow human beings, simply because we can no longer take them at face value, unlike, say, during our grandparents' generation. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 11:55 pm |
Thanks Ana, for all your words and comments, you are very astute.....i felt so stupid, but am now starting to feel better now everything is coming out....weird eh....you are very kind.... But very brave, coming out and telling your story. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/15/2008 11:59 pm |
You know with all that has been said, I am now left wondering how many of the genuine nice guys here on this site are now worried about contacting any of these women who have been duped or even new ones. These lowlife guys are ruining it for the genuine ones and making all the women here nervous of any contact not knowing who to trust and who not to. I really think anyone who has been played be it a woman or a guy need to publish the handle to enlighten the rest as to who to trust and who not to. We all realise that when we are seeking love we read more into what is actually being said especially when we are down and blue. Who wouldn't but we need to be aware of who are the genuine ones and who aren't. Personally, I am not looking for anything but friends. I already have a lover. Hey, I thought we were gonna schedule a threesome with BikerBiatchBride? Lemme bring the Crisco. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/16/2008 12:41 am |
Hi I'm back very very well said i read this twice coz i can't concentrate reading this you know client pasaway  you know what i did before when i started a doubts i give my password to eimee and let her read all his emails to me and some of that i copy paste and forwarded to ari and then share to melodymac and to bob bad belle bad no secret smile and be happy always
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4/16/2008 12:47 am |
Great advice that I hope everyone heeds, Dean. What saddens me, though, is that our present society is in such a state that we actually need these guidelines in dealing with our fellow human beings, simply because we can no longer take them at face value, unlike, say, during our grandparents' generation. If you can't convince them, confuse them!
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4/16/2008 1:47 am |
OK OK I've been sussed! I'll try to mend my ways. lol. Good post Much along with Rachie's. Tone. Hold my thingy, and I'll love you forever more.
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4/16/2008 2:06 am |
I think this is something that's not just related to the present. Men and women have been cheating each other for thousands of years, but luckily it's not the majority of men and women. Nowadays it's easier to be anonymous on the internet of course, but we can develop some sort of sixth sense (or instinct) to read people on line too. I was always able to read moods or people in 3D, and that's not something supernatural. I learned to do that on-line as well, but it takes time. I agree with Misty that when we're blue, down in the dumps or vulnerable our judgment is clouded and blurred and we should be extra careful. That's of course no excuse for what this man has done, but there will be others in the future who will do the same. Sometimes on-line, we gather people around us too easily. I wasn't any different when I started blogging. In the long run I started focusing on the ones that were very special to me. Now there's just two of them left: Misty and Flame. In numbers that's just two. In friendship and love that's a whole lot!! We can never ban the players, but if we are more cautious it will be easier to recognize them. I'm not judging, just trying to give some advice, cause if we pick our friendships carefully they can last a lifetime. And isn't that what all of us want?
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4/16/2008 4:14 am |
MM, yes, well put. Unfortunately, it's a dangerous planet and the scumbags will always be with us. These days I'm always very guarded online; my sense of trust isn't what it used to be. Keep up with the sharp tongue - where it's needed!!! Have a warm hug. 
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4/16/2008 4:45 am |
I thought it was good of somebody to speak out on these things. I still don't know who is being talked about here. Like Munch, I sometimes get dubious feelings about some of the members (if they ARE really members)...  Not dubious about all for the exact same reasons though. But back to the subject... Would there be any legal reason the victims could not name names in the blogs? Here we may need advice from an attorney...even a miniature one will do just fine... Don't give up the ship...Dang the torpedoes and full speed ahead!
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4/16/2008 6:48 am |
Hi I'm back very very well said i read this twice coz i can't concentrate reading this you know client pasaway you know what i did before when i started a doubts i give my password to eimee and let her read all his emails to me and some of that i copy paste and forwarded to ari and then share to melodymac and to bob bad belle bad no secret Sometimes we refuse to see what's in front of us, and it takes a truly good friend who can give us a thwap upside of the head and go, "Ano ba??? Use your kukote, no??" I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/16/2008 6:51 am |
It is sad and a shame. That is why it is up to us, who genuinely care and love and respect each other, to help maintain the trust and credibility. There are always going to be players, unfortunately, but we don't have to let it taint what is good here. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/16/2008 6:53 am |
OK OK I've been sussed! I'll try to mend my ways. lol. Good post Much along with Rachie's. Tone. (Starts gathering merkins to stitch together for Tone just in case) I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/16/2008 7:01 am |
I think this is something that's not just related to the present. Men and women have been cheating each other for thousands of years, but luckily it's not the majority of men and women. Nowadays it's easier to be anonymous on the internet of course, but we can develop some sort of sixth sense (or instinct) to read people on line too. I was always able to read moods or people in 3D, and that's not something supernatural. I learned to do that on-line as well, but it takes time. I agree with Misty that when we're blue, down in the dumps or vulnerable our judgment is clouded and blurred and we should be extra careful. That's of course no excuse for what this man has done, but there will be others in the future who will do the same. Sometimes on-line, we gather people around us too easily. I wasn't any different when I started blogging. In the long run I started focusing on the ones that were very special to me. Now there's just two of them left: Misty and Flame. In numbers that's just two. In friendship and love that's a whole lot!! We can never ban the players, but if we are more cautious it will be easier to recognize them. I'm not judging, just trying to give some advice, cause if we pick our friendships carefully they can last a lifetime. And isn't that what all of us want? Online was giddy for me at the outset simply because, oh my---all those cultures! All these people from everywhere! So much to learn, so much to talk about! It was my innate curiosity that did me in when I got played by someone who offered friendship, wanting to see what made people from everywhere else tick, wanting to learn about their culture and tradition and everyday life when it was so far removed from mine. But after that first learning experience I, like you, learned to focus. The ones closest to me on here are the ones I've known for years. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/16/2008 7:07 am |
MM, yes, well put. Unfortunately, it's a dangerous planet and the scumbags will always be with us. These days I'm always very guarded online; my sense of trust isn't what it used to be. Keep up with the sharp tongue - where it's needed!!! Have a warm hug. You have a great week. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/16/2008 7:10 am |
I thought it was good of somebody to speak out on these things. I still don't know who is being talked about here. Like Munch, I sometimes get dubious feelings about some of the members (if they ARE really members)...:> Not dubious about all for the exact same reasons though. But back to the subject... Would there be any legal reason the victims could not name names in the blogs? Here we may need advice from an attorney...even a miniature one will do just fine... Don't give up the ship...Dang the torpedoes and full speed ahead! Hey, I may be a miniature attorney, but I charge full fees. (filches full bag of blue nummy nums this time) I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/16/2008 7:20 am |
Hi Ana, Thank you for such a well written post that covered so much ground. It angers me to no end that some people actually put great effort in lies and deceit to make another persons life as unhappy as they can, while juggling several at a time. It has to be a cruel game that they enjoy and get better at it as times goes by. They don't care who they hurt or how badly, because they have no conscience. I wish there was a way to expose these people, and find out just how many they were stringing along at the same time. When people are hurt and feel ashamed because they have been duped, I think it is a natural reaction to want to just go hide somewhere and blame themselves because they didn't see it coming. The sub humans who do this count on that reaction and keep on picking new victims. They are very skilled at finding the most vulnerable ones. They become a fake of what the other person is looking for in their profiles. A Southern expression that says it clearly is.. . "we oughta skinem alive and nail their sorry hide to the back of the barn" . I did clean that up a little I have a big hammer too if anyone needs my help  Hugs to you Ana for such a great post Flo[
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4/16/2008 7:24 am |
Funny, I agree with everyone. Very well put, Ana. Oh, and everyone, please remind me never to pi$$ any of you off. You all know each other, and one day, are gonna become a mob. LOL. Of course, I will prolly be one of you. I am all for vengence. I think it should be instructional, though. If they don't learn a lesson, then it is just a different kind of meanness. Be well all. Especially you Munch. I believe in justice--but then my notion of justice is hoping he gets throbbing boils at the end of his willy that makes him howl with pain every time he pees. That's not too mean, is it? You be well too, Jimy. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/16/2008 7:35 am |
Hi Ana, Thank you for such a well written post that covered so much ground. It angers me to no end that some people actually put great effort in lies and deceit to make another persons life as unhappy as they can, while juggling several at a time. It has to be a cruel game that they enjoy and get better at it as times goes by. They don't care who they hurt or how badly, because they have no conscience. I wish there was a way to expose these people, and find out just how many they were stringing along at the same time. When people are hurt and feel ashamed because they have been duped, I think it is a natural reaction to want to just go hide somewhere and blame themselves because they didn't see it coming. The sub humans who do this count on that reaction and keep on picking new victims. They are very skilled at finding the most vulnerable ones. They become a fake of what the other person is looking for in their profiles. A Southern expression that says it clearly is.. . "we oughta skinem alive and nail their sorry hide to the back of the barn" . I did clean that up a little I have a big hammer too if anyone needs my help Hugs to you Ana for such a great post Flo[ People can be anyone and anything they wish to be on here. Funny thing though, I've come across quite a number of men on chat pretending to be lawyers online, and it cracks me up because there I am, real life lawyer, thinking, "Oh goody, someone to talk shop with!" and immediately greet them with, "Hello there, fellow counselor." 9 times out of 10, they suddenly click off the room and refuse to even acknowledge my greeting. I've only ever met 2 other real life lawyers here, one from Italy, and another from the US. I can't fathom why people would do this. Don't they believe in karma?? (Rachieanne should get first dibs with the hammer, I would think--to thwap that twit Scott/TJRug/Jeff/Snake with) Hugs to you, always so good to see you in my little corner. I'm dyslexic. I scream Ho Dog instead of Oh God in the throes of passion.
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4/16/2008 11:02 am |
You did good babe and I am standing and applauding this post of yours I think it is time more of us followed in line...exposing the deceptive players and making it known, we will not tolerate crap like this! It both hurts and affects the lives of others. What I find so heartbreaking in all cases like this is how the person who was deceived feels shame and embarrassment along with the other unpleasant emotions. That is the kicker. Like, being ashamed to talk about it...feeling foolish for being duped and taken in. I get so pissed at this. They shouldn't feel this way but it is all a part of the process and healing. I am proud of both you and Rachel for speaking out. Hopefully, this will prevent Mr. GuessWhoIamThisTimeAround from ever doing it again. We need to ban together, report abuse when it arises and stop the deterioration of the integrity of this site and blogs. Heaven knows, FF won't do it...UNLESS we force the issue by multiple reports and demanding they uphold their "terms of use" policy we all checked and agreed to in order to be a member of this site. I could go on to say how I feel about this but I don't see the point in it. You said it well, as have the many who have commented on your blog. I am right there in all of this. Great post hun and I am thankful for people like you, and others like you, who are not afraid to speak up and out calling a spade a spade. I am grateful you are in my court...with me and not against me lol...you are a firecracker...strike that. You are dynamite Hugs babe...job well done and let's hope this will be the last we see of him! Luvs ya...V     Expect The Unexpected
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4/16/2008 2:22 pm |
Munch...no...I don't remember. Which Sparks? Which Irina? I talk to so many people here, I can't keep up with everything.  Which is why I'm being a nosy old coot in here... ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Hey, Buddy...wouldja like to hear some gossip?" ------------------------------------------------------------------ (Filches back half the blue nummy nums).
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4/16/2008 8:48 pm |
You did good babe and I am standing and applauding this post of yours I think it is time more of us followed in line...exposing the deceptive players and making it known, we will not tolerate crap like this! It both hurts and affects the lives of others. What I find so heartbreaking in all cases like this is how the person who was deceived feels shame and embarrassment along with the other unpleasant emotions. That is the kicker. Lik | ||
